The authority of the Church, the Bible and the Christian tradition has always been an essential element in the life of the Church and of Christians. But there is a problem when experience or ordinary empirical knowledge or even commonly accepted scientific theories seem to contradict the voices of authority.;Authorities try increasingly, in reaction to growing acceptance of gays and gay sex within the Church, to argue the case against both.;This text argues that demonstrates that the arguments put forward by the Church are flawed and that Gay Christians are responsible and thoughtful moral agents and that we will make no progress until we treat them as such.